Fox news about Dinar

by marb Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:07 am

Gurus, please give some interpretation to this news from Fox Business channel, very discouraging. Please help! Thanks!

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2012/02/22/iraqs-dinar-still-stuck-in-wild-west-currencies/

by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:11 am

This is old news!

by RikkiRen Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:39 am

How old? this date is not "old" -- ?? eveytime I apporach WF my bank about Dinar - they get disgusted and say they will not be buying or selling right up to this week !!! bummer !! Fox news about Dinar 858978640

by renny123 Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:30 am

less than a month old.

by Lifes blessings Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:59 am

I look at this way, in the last two sentences he was talking about fraud, and saying that they can offer currency "they believe" to have MUCH less liquidity, fraud and principal risk. Well from all the news that has surfaced we know there is fraud going on, look at all the people "retiring" arrest being made and people stepping down. as far as them suggesting other safer currency, my understanding is " the higher the risk the better the pay out" i dont think all these high up people would risk their careers over small change.

But please this this is my way of thinking, i choose to believe that we have been chosen to be in this for a reason so im keeping the FAITH...

Nothing good comes easy, and we all know this is not an easy ride. Blessings to all.

by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:10 am

Lifes blessings wrote:I look at this way, in the last two sentences he was talking about fraud, and saying that they can offer currency "they believe" to have MUCH less liquidity, fraud and principal risk. Well from all the news that has surfaced we know there is fraud going on, look at all the people "retiring" arrest being made and people stepping down. as far as them suggesting other safer currency, my understanding is " the higher the risk the better the pay out" i dont think all these high up people would risk their careers over small change.

But please this this is my way of thinking, i choose to believe that we have been chosen to be in this for a reason so im keeping the FAITH...

Nothing good comes easy, and we all know this is not an easy ride. Blessings to all.

A nice positive way to look at things.

by Dinar4ever Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:13 am

I saw this very same story over a year ago. Consider it smoke and mirrors!

by wes Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:28 am

I'm curious what AJ's take on this is or on anything else for that matter. Haven't seen him around in awhile. Did I miss something?

by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:05 pm

Boy will they change their tune once you know what happens...

by openmind Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:14 pm

The news is less than a month old, but the facts reflected in it have been constant for several years. The Dinar has been close to this rate for a while now.

I just don't think it is Iraq's priority or prerogative to multiply the wealth of American 'Christians' when their own people are suffering. Especially considering the suffering in Iraq is a consequence of the complacency, arrogance, and apathy of those who call themselves 'Christians.'

For all of those on this site who bash socialist and Obama, isn't the Dinar RV just a hand out? In fact its more than a hand out, isn't it the plundering of another countries resources? Just a thought

by **HezekiaH** Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:17 pm

Openmind Thanks for challenging us all to THINK!! Go RV

by **aksafeone** Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:35 pm

Open mind wrote:
"In fact its more than a hand out, isn't it the plundering of another countries resources? Just a thought"

When one takes this one sentence and applies it to our investment in another countires ( or our own for that matter) stock market, real estate, etc. is that also "plundering?"

I wager to say that there are MANY tycoons, financiers, millionaires and others that have investments widely spread throughout the world. Does that make them pirates, plunders, etc? If so, then we haven't progressed very far have we over all these centuries.

Is it plunder to make a profit? Great, then let's outlaw profit, now where do we prosper enough to pay our bills? Do we return to the barter system? Was that not profiteering of another nature? In any situation someone profits (wins) or a loss (loses) - can't be any other way.

I think plundering comes from a forceful take over of property. If that is true then I have not forcefully taken anything nor has any one forcefully taken anything from me in this venture. How can what we are doing be considered plunder? Did some one put a gun to your head and tell you to buy dinar Openmind? I think not, you did it of your own accord (albeit with malice and fore thought?) - so are you then guilty of plundering also?

Something to PONDER, not plunder. Besides plundering ususally takes only a short while - this has gone one for almost a decade - either we are inept at plundering or .... . Just my skewed but honest opinion.

by **Kevind53** Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:56 pm

I totally agree with askafeone. Investing in a countries future, no matter how speculative, is not plundering, it is investing. That it might, just might provide a very nice profit does not alter that one bit.

Is it socialism, maybe if you believe in the global reset, wealth packages, and all that other stuff. I don't, so the answer is no.

by happywelshguy Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:56 pm

I'm sure that this economist is looking at fundementals, as he would for any currency.

The question is, should the Dinar opportunity be looked upon in the same manner as other countries?

I don't think so, it's uniquely different.

We, the Dinartarian populace, know better.

bounce

marb wrote:Gurus, please give some interpretation to this news from Fox Business channel, very discouraging. Please help! Thanks!

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2012/02/22/iraqs-dinar-still-stuck-in-wild-west-currencies/

by **Kevind53** Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:06 pm

Newish article maybe, old information. It seems to me that this was discussed in depth here somewhere, but I can't seem to find it at the moment, so maybe that was over on changesexchange.

by **doodoo** Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:08 pm

Oooooohhhhhhhh! Where is my tinfoil hat?

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by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:24 pm

Kevind53 wrote:Newish article maybe, old information. It seems to me that this was discussed in depth here somewhere, but I can't seem to find it at the moment, so maybe that was over on changesexchange.

This was discussed before ...and shame on wells fargo! Come rv.

by GIN4US Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:03 pm

Here's my advice: Stop listening to the mainstream media; they are nothing but LIARS! crap

And as far as talking to Wells Fargo or any other bank: STOP TALKING TO THE BANKS!!! They purposely have told many to steer clear of the Dinar so that all of their employees will stay slaves to the system. Think about it....if all the bank employees knew that this was a legit investment and they all invested in it, who would be left to deal with the public???

Just my 2 cents.....before the millions roll in! party time

by **Kevind53** Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:59 pm

GIN4US wrote:Here's my advice: Stop listening to the mainstream media; they are nothing but LIARS!

Just my 2 cents.....before the millions roll in!

And the websites making wild, unverifiable, unprovable, allegations are not? Agreed, let the millions roll in!

by **aksafeone** Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:05 pm

Bring it on - come on RV - let the millions roll ... and roll .... and roll .... . :geek:

Fox news about Dinar 949729897

by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:07 pm

I want billions.

by renny123 Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:01 pm

i want trillions

by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:12 pm

renny123 wrote:i want trillions

That's not fair. I want gagillions lmao

by **aksafeone** Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:22 pm

Mercy, that just taught me to not be so greedy and ask to bring on the "millions." Next time, I will be more imaginative!!! Sorry, I think I started something, hmmmmmmmm Well, then I want ....... gigamabitrillions. :geek:

by fang2 Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:43 pm

Zag zillians please!!!!!!!!

by **aksafeone** Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:51 pm

Ya know what??? RIGHT ABOUT NOW I'D SETTLE FOR THE RV.

by fang2 Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:01 pm

We all are in aggrement there!!!!

by Steve Raymond Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:55 pm

Personally, I'd rather have the rapture occur and let others worry about the money. HOWEVER, barring the rapture, I can't think of anything more exciting than being wealthy enough to never have to worry about money again. Just think of all the good that could be accomplished with that much money, in the hands of Gods' children !!!! VERY EXCITING !!!!

by Steve Raymond Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:59 pm

Anybody have new info. tonight ?

by **Kevind53** Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:04 pm

by sparcky374 Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:31 pm

I believe that we can plunder the kingdom of heck and free many people from going to heck with this so called plunder. Many many people can be reached and helped with this plunder. then so be it this world actually belongs to God and his children so lets plunder the gates of heck. Just my 2 cents worth.

by santafe Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:24 am

With the bank deals we all need to read the fine print.

Some of the banks may ask us to leave out money in their bank for a specific period to qualify for a certain rate.

As always ... the devil is in the details...

by 1alaskan Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:56 pm

NO one at any bank knows the rate, at this time, they will know when it happens, odds are we will know before them as we watch daily, unless someone who works at a bank owns IQD, they don't.

NO one, except maybe a few at the top level in the Foreign Currency dept, knows what that bank is, or is not going to do when it RV's, No need for anyone else to know before hand, Why? the IQD will be added to the list of currencies they now deal in, no big deal, another day in the banking business.

Special bank deals in place now?, I doubt it. Why would a bank do that, not knowing what their competors are planning and they don't make special deals now with other currencies do they?

Just my opinion. nothing more, nothing less.

by redheadedwitch Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:27 pm

UM, UM, UM, BEING GREEDY???? YA'LL SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YO'SEVES!!!! (SOUTHERNISM FOR YOURSELVES)!!!!! LOL

by therealbutterfly Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:41 pm

1alaskan wrote:NO one at any bank knows the rate, at this time, they will know when it happens, odds are we will know before them as we watch daily, unless someone who works at a bank owns IQD, they don't.

NO one, except maybe a few at the top level in the Foreign Currency dept, knows what that bank is, or is not going to do when it RV's, No need for anyone else to know before hand, Why? the IQD will be added to the list of currencies they now deal in, no big deal, another day in the banking business.

Special bank deals in place now?, I doubt it. Why would a bank do that, not knowing what their competors are planning and they don't make special deals now with other currencies do they?

Just my opinion. nothing more, nothing less.

Doubt all you want but deals have been made with banks.

by 1alaskan Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:50 pm

therealbutterfly wrote:
1alaskan wrote:NO one at any bank knows the rate, at this time, they will know when it happens, odds are we will know before them as we watch daily, unless someone who works at a bank owns IQD, they don't.

NO one, except maybe a few at the top level in the Foreign Currency dept, knows what that bank is, or is not going to do when it RV's, No need for anyone else to know before hand, Why? the IQD will be added to the list of currencies they now deal in, no big deal, another day in the banking business.

Special bank deals in place now?, I doubt it. Why would a bank do that, not knowing what their competors are planning and they don't make special deals now with other currencies do they?

Just my opinion. nothing more, nothing less.

Doubt all you want but deals have been made with banks.

Well in this case, I going with our friends from Missouri, the show me state.

by Guest Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:56 pm

therealbutterfly wrote:
1alaskan wrote:NO one at any bank knows the rate, at this time, they will know when it happens, odds are we will know before them as we watch daily, unless someone who works at a bank owns IQD, they don't.

NO one, except maybe a few at the top level in the Foreign Currency dept, knows what that bank is, or is not going to do when it RV's, No need for anyone else to know before hand, Why? the IQD will be added to the list of currencies they now deal in, no big deal, another day in the banking business.

Special bank deals in place now?, I doubt it. Why would a bank do that, not knowing what their competors are planning and they don't make special deals now with other currencies do they?

Just my opinion. nothing more, nothing less.

Doubt all you want but deals have been made with banks.

Im surprised to hear you say that.

by therealbutterfly Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:13 pm

punisher wrote:
therealbutterfly wrote:
1alaskan wrote:NO one at any bank knows the rate, at this time, they will know when it happens, odds are we will know before them as we watch daily, unless someone who works at a bank owns IQD, they don't.

NO one, except maybe a few at the top level in the Foreign Currency dept, knows what that bank is, or is not going to do when it RV's, No need for anyone else to know before hand, Why? the IQD will be added to the list of currencies they now deal in, no big deal, another day in the banking business.

Special bank deals in place now?, I doubt it. Why would a bank do that, not knowing what their competors are planning and they don't make special deals now with other currencies do they?

Just my opinion. nothing more, nothing less.

Doubt all you want but deals have been made with banks.

Im surprised to hear you say that.

Why? I have posted many times on here and on other sites that my group has a deal already made. It was done years ago and the full details will be made public when it happens. But til then, only a select few that were in on the negotiations for our group know the details. And thats all that anyone needs to know for now Smile

by Guest Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:10 pm

I only say that because you dont expect to make much from this investment.

by therealbutterfly Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:30 pm

punisher wrote:I only say that because you dont expect to make much from this investment.

Remember, when I got into this we were looking at a DIME per dinar. Of course that was a different time and none of the RD talk was going on. But I still plan on making money just I dont buy the whole 100,000%+ return like many here do. Doesnt make me a negative person or a non believe, its just that I believe in something different. But to some, that makes me a bad and mean person.

by Ronc Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:07 pm

how many times have we all been asked by Okie and many others TO QUIT GOING TO THE BANKS AND ASKING! WOW!

by therealbutterfly Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:10 pm

Ronc wrote:how many times have we all been asked by Okie and many others TO QUIT GOING TO THE BANKS AND ASKING! WOW!

Who cares if people go to banks or not? Its not stopping anything. At MOST it might be annoying to the bank employees. And it most likely will be frustrating to the dinar holder who gets the typical, dinar is a scam, response. Big deal. I see no problem with people going to banks and trying to do what they feel comfortable with.

by Guest Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:45 pm

therealbutterfly wrote:
punisher wrote:I only say that because you dont expect to make much from this investment.

Remember, when I got into this we were looking at a DIME per dinar. Of course that was a different time and none of the RD talk was going on. But I still plan on making money just I dont buy the whole 100,000%+ return like many here do. Doesnt make me a negative person or a non believe, its just that I believe in something different. But to some, that makes me a bad and mean person.

I understand. I choose to believe this investment is unlike any other and it will never happen again. Come rv!

by IQD4US Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:22 pm

Christopher pointed to the fact that the Iraqi dinar trade ranked No. 6 on the Utah Department of Commerce’s list of top 10 frauds of 2006.

Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2012/02/22/iraqs-dinar-still-stuck-in-wild-west-currencies/#ixzz1p3eFIcaS

by Guest Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:58 pm

As long as we get that certificate of authenticity when we order iqd we should be good right?

by IQD4US Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:02 am

Just a thought here:

Several weeks ago someone brought up some old news about Sterling Currency Group (dinar banker) being in court. Someone published the paper wrok and provided a link.

Does anyone really think that a US Court would allow a company like Dinar Banker to come in and be heard IF they were not legitimate?

Does anyone think Dinar Banker (SCG) would even want to go to court if they were running a scam?

To put it in Okies words "nuff said"

I have worked in the banks, and the tellers - even Bank Managers - don't "know it all".

Here's a "for instance". Next time your in your bank - ask them about a Power of Attorney. Ask them if they honor them, and if they do - is there any reason why they wouldn't accept them. Then next time you go back, ask again. Ask someone different.

You WILL find you will get different answers. and these would be questions of "common place" - something they SHOULD be well versed in. Then come back and tell me the "BANKS" in the US know what they are talking about when dealing with the probability of a Foreign Currency changing value.

Yes - having the certificate of authenticity means you have "good, credible" currency as it currently stands. (ie - change of currrency for the country)

by Guest Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:45 am

IQD4US wrote:Just a thought here:

Several weeks ago someone brought up some old news about Sterling Currency Group (dinar banker) being in court. Someone published the paper wrok and provided a link.

Does anyone really think that a US Court would allow a company like Dinar Banker to come in and be heard IF they were not legitimate?

Does anyone think Dinar Banker (SCG) would even want to go to court if they were running a scam?

To put it in Okies words "nuff said"

I have worked in the banks, and the tellers - even Bank Managers - don't "know it all".

Here's a "for instance". Next time your in your bank - ask them about a Power of Attorney. Ask them if they honor them, and if they do - is there any reason why they wouldn't accept them. Then next time you go back, ask again. Ask someone different.

You WILL find you will get different answers. and these would be questions of "common place" - something they SHOULD be well versed in. Then come back and tell me the "BANKS" in the US know what they are talking about when dealing with the probability of a Foreign Currency changing value.

Yes - having the certificate of authenticity means you have "good, credible" currency as it currently stands. (ie - change of currrency for the country)

Well stated.

by DFRAGN Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:13 am

punisher wrote:As long as we get that certificate of authenticity when we order iqd we should be good right?

A little food for thought:
If you happened to purchase counterfeit dinar, would the letter of authenticity actually be authentic? affraid

by **Kevind53** Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:52 am

DFRAGN wrote:
punisher wrote:As long as we get that certificate of authenticity when we order iqd we should be good right?

A little food for thought:
If you happened to purchase counterfeit dinar, would the letter of authenticity actually be authentic?

As long as you purchased from a bank or a legitimate, licensed dealer you have no worries. Otherwise, it's easy enough to authenticate them, all you need is a black light and a magnifying glass. (BTW I noticed that Staples has in their stores a new currency verifier pen. It has the special ink on one side, and a UV LED on the other. I tried it on a $20 I had in my pocked. The UV part actually works very nicely, even in a brightly lit store.

by Guest Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:03 am

I got all of mine from dinar trade and gid associates so i should be good.